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		<title>By: Call it a Win: Support David Bellavia for Congress &#124; raquelokyay.com</title>
		<link>http://raquelokyay.com/2010-election/106/dede-deja-vu/#comment-63197</link>
		<dc:creator>Call it a Win: Support David Bellavia for Congress &#124; raquelokyay.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2011 23:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] We can be sure that a patriot such as David Bellavia has our best interests at heart, whereas with many political party leaders, we have no choice but to be skeptical of their motives.  This race, in fact, is reminiscent of the debacle that occurred in New York Congressional District 23, where a liberal Democrat won in a Republican-stronghold district thanks to a Republican Party leadership that spurned the conservative candidate and supported the “Rockefeller Republican” instead. “Recall that this was the race [special election – Nov. 2008] that pitted a liberal Republican vs. a Conservative Republican vs. a liberal Democrat. Third party candidate Conservative Republican Doug Hoffman in normal circumstances would not have a chance in hell against deep pocketed and intrinsically politically connected – the Republican and Democrat Party respectively – but because he was the only true conservative in the race, this unknown and boring accountant came a hairline away from becoming one of just a handful of third party candidates elected to the United States Congress.” (RaquelOkyay.com) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] We can be sure that a patriot such as David Bellavia has our best interests at heart, whereas with many political party leaders, we have no choice but to be skeptical of their motives.  This race, in fact, is reminiscent of the debacle that occurred in New York Congressional District 23, where a liberal Democrat won in a Republican-stronghold district thanks to a Republican Party leadership that spurned the conservative candidate and supported the “Rockefeller Republican” instead. “Recall that this was the race [special election – Nov. 2008] that pitted a liberal Republican vs. a Conservative Republican vs. a liberal Democrat. Third party candidate Conservative Republican Doug Hoffman in normal circumstances would not have a chance in hell against deep pocketed and intrinsically politically connected – the Republican and Democrat Party respectively – but because he was the only true conservative in the race, this unknown and boring accountant came a hairline away from becoming one of just a handful of third party candidates elected to the United States Congress.” (RaquelOkyay.com) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: raquelokyay.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Conservative or Moderate? Your Choice</title>
		<link>http://raquelokyay.com/2010-election/106/dede-deja-vu/#comment-29605</link>
		<dc:creator>raquelokyay.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Conservative or Moderate? Your Choice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 16:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] when I made the case that Nan Hayworth is “Dede Déjà Vu?” by comparing District 19 with the debacle that occurred in Upstate New York’s District 23 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] when I made the case that Nan Hayworth is “Dede Déjà Vu?” by comparing District 19 with the debacle that occurred in Upstate New York’s District 23 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: raquelokyay.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Hayworth Campaign Restricts Free Speech</title>
		<link>http://raquelokyay.com/2010-election/106/dede-deja-vu/#comment-19827</link>
		<dc:creator>raquelokyay.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Hayworth Campaign Restricts Free Speech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 02:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] facts are clear and simple and have been presented at this blog in four separate articles; Dede Déjà vu?; Congress, Abortion and District 19; Misinformation or Truth?; and Matter of Time. Each article was [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] facts are clear and simple and have been presented at this blog in four separate articles; Dede Déjà vu?; Congress, Abortion and District 19; Misinformation or Truth?; and Matter of Time. Each article was [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Fois</title>
		<link>http://raquelokyay.com/2010-election/106/dede-deja-vu/#comment-19356</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Fois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 06:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t publish a story on my blog until I obtain two confirmations from named sources.  I also prefer to physically confirm the story, either through research or investigation.

The art and craft of winning a campaign is often subjective.

Seems to me we have two issues here:

(1) How do Republicans win back the 19th?

(2) How do we prevent the lack of integrity that plagued the 23rd Congressional District from repeating itself in the 19th or anywhere else?

I find that sometimes political troublemakers want to lobby an issue so manipulatively that they (a) start believing their clippings, and (b) want everyone else to believe them too.

It doesn&#039;t mean it is true.

The voters in the 19th Congressional District of New York are not &quot;moderate&quot; nor have they embraced the support of abortion rights in any majority in the past.  Therefore, it would make sense from a political science perspective not to feed sugar to a diabetic.

Then again, I know of some political sweeteners that substitute for these beliefs -- but sugarcoating it usually kills the patient before Election Day.

If Nan Hayworth wanted to win, she never would have accepted money from a healthcare PAC already giving 81% of its monies to Democrats.

She also would have articulated a pro-life stand without mumbling so intolerably that everyone during her &quot;listening tour&quot; wouldn&#039;t have raised doubts about her commitment to more than one issue.

The tangent on green initiatives and her only recent NRA membership set off all the alarms long before the abortion issue was mentioned.

Eventually, one&#039;s skin gets so uncomfortable being scripted that the voters get as uncomfortable.  That is what happened to Nan Hayworth.  The NRCC likes her money but the political diabetes on both sides of this debate can only poison the 19th later on.

We should find a candidate who reflects the beliefs of those who reside in the 19th, not force the beliefs of troublemakers with an agenda.

I would dare say that the pro-life sentiments on this blog reflect the district -- and the pro-abortion sentiments reflect people who are out of touch.

Hayworth won&#039;t win.  Worse, the Republicans will alienate their base.

That&#039;s bad politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t publish a story on my blog until I obtain two confirmations from named sources.  I also prefer to physically confirm the story, either through research or investigation.</p>
<p>The art and craft of winning a campaign is often subjective.</p>
<p>Seems to me we have two issues here:</p>
<p>(1) How do Republicans win back the 19th?</p>
<p>(2) How do we prevent the lack of integrity that plagued the 23rd Congressional District from repeating itself in the 19th or anywhere else?</p>
<p>I find that sometimes political troublemakers want to lobby an issue so manipulatively that they (a) start believing their clippings, and (b) want everyone else to believe them too.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t mean it is true.</p>
<p>The voters in the 19th Congressional District of New York are not &#8220;moderate&#8221; nor have they embraced the support of abortion rights in any majority in the past.  Therefore, it would make sense from a political science perspective not to feed sugar to a diabetic.</p>
<p>Then again, I know of some political sweeteners that substitute for these beliefs &#8212; but sugarcoating it usually kills the patient before Election Day.</p>
<p>If Nan Hayworth wanted to win, she never would have accepted money from a healthcare PAC already giving 81% of its monies to Democrats.</p>
<p>She also would have articulated a pro-life stand without mumbling so intolerably that everyone during her &#8220;listening tour&#8221; wouldn&#8217;t have raised doubts about her commitment to more than one issue.</p>
<p>The tangent on green initiatives and her only recent NRA membership set off all the alarms long before the abortion issue was mentioned.</p>
<p>Eventually, one&#8217;s skin gets so uncomfortable being scripted that the voters get as uncomfortable.  That is what happened to Nan Hayworth.  The NRCC likes her money but the political diabetes on both sides of this debate can only poison the 19th later on.</p>
<p>We should find a candidate who reflects the beliefs of those who reside in the 19th, not force the beliefs of troublemakers with an agenda.</p>
<p>I would dare say that the pro-life sentiments on this blog reflect the district &#8212; and the pro-abortion sentiments reflect people who are out of touch.</p>
<p>Hayworth won&#8217;t win.  Worse, the Republicans will alienate their base.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s bad politics.</p>
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		<title>By: raquelokyay.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Misinformation or Truth?</title>
		<link>http://raquelokyay.com/2010-election/106/dede-deja-vu/#comment-19124</link>
		<dc:creator>raquelokyay.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Misinformation or Truth?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 12:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] make the case in Dede Déjà Vu? that Republicans in charge are about to make the same mistake they made in District 23 (the Dede [...]</description>
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		<title>By: truth hurts</title>
		<link>http://raquelokyay.com/2010-election/106/dede-deja-vu/#comment-19096</link>
		<dc:creator>truth hurts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 17:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry, but I&#039;m going to have to call it misinformation on the sheer basis of it not correlating with the truth.  I don&#039;t mean it as a comment on your integrity, per se (which I&#039;ve seen no reason to question in all this); I don&#039;t believe that you have a personal agenda outside of expressing your own views.

Also, our viewpoints aren&#039;t so different, you know.  It&#039;s just a matter of my having very strong feelings about some fellow Putnam residents who are still angry about a certain candidate&#039;s having exited and proceed to take it out on what is (so far, at least) our only hope to put someone reasonably conservative in Congress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but I&#8217;m going to have to call it misinformation on the sheer basis of it not correlating with the truth.  I don&#8217;t mean it as a comment on your integrity, per se (which I&#8217;ve seen no reason to question in all this); I don&#8217;t believe that you have a personal agenda outside of expressing your own views.</p>
<p>Also, our viewpoints aren&#8217;t so different, you know.  It&#8217;s just a matter of my having very strong feelings about some fellow Putnam residents who are still angry about a certain candidate&#8217;s having exited and proceed to take it out on what is (so far, at least) our only hope to put someone reasonably conservative in Congress.</p>
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		<title>By: Raquel</title>
		<link>http://raquelokyay.com/2010-election/106/dede-deja-vu/#comment-19093</link>
		<dc:creator>Raquel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 17:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, my blog is mostly commentary.  I got a lead and I ran with it.  I&#039;m glad the questions are out there, the people deserve to know.  Thanks for commenting at my blog, btw, I do appreciate differing viewpoints!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, my blog is mostly commentary.  I got a lead and I ran with it.  I&#8217;m glad the questions are out there, the people deserve to know.  Thanks for commenting at my blog, btw, I do appreciate differing viewpoints!</p>
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		<title>By: Raquel</title>
		<link>http://raquelokyay.com/2010-election/106/dede-deja-vu/#comment-19092</link>
		<dc:creator>Raquel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 17:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again truth hurts it&#039;s not misinformation.  I have a source, it&#039;s credible, you can take it or leave it, but please don&#039;t question my integrity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again truth hurts it&#8217;s not misinformation.  I have a source, it&#8217;s credible, you can take it or leave it, but please don&#8217;t question my integrity.</p>
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		<title>By: truth hurts</title>
		<link>http://raquelokyay.com/2010-election/106/dede-deja-vu/#comment-19091</link>
		<dc:creator>truth hurts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 17:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To clarify, by the way, I meant the commentary-scoop distinction not as a jibe but as further illustrating my point.  I do enjoy what I&#039;ve read of your writing so far, you know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To clarify, by the way, I meant the commentary-scoop distinction not as a jibe but as further illustrating my point.  I do enjoy what I&#8217;ve read of your writing so far, you know.</p>
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		<title>By: truth hurts</title>
		<link>http://raquelokyay.com/2010-election/106/dede-deja-vu/#comment-19088</link>
		<dc:creator>truth hurts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 17:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s misinformation because it is evidently not backed up by the NRCC&#039;s actual actions.  Your sources are currently 0 for 1 to public knowledge.  You trust them because...?

I also wouldn&#039;t label you a no-name in the first place, and you seem to be more about commentary than claiming to have a scoop.  Logic and reason are accessible to all; facts have to be made so, which is where credentials start to matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s misinformation because it is evidently not backed up by the NRCC&#8217;s actual actions.  Your sources are currently 0 for 1 to public knowledge.  You trust them because&#8230;?</p>
<p>I also wouldn&#8217;t label you a no-name in the first place, and you seem to be more about commentary than claiming to have a scoop.  Logic and reason are accessible to all; facts have to be made so, which is where credentials start to matter.</p>
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