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		<title>By: raquelokyay.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Hayworth Campaign Restricts Free Speech</title>
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		<dc:creator>raquelokyay.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Hayworth Campaign Restricts Free Speech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 03:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at this blog in four separate articles; Dede Déjà vu?; Congress, Abortion and District 19; Misinformation or Truth?; and Matter of Time. Each article was developed as new information was piling in from several [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Alice L.</title>
		<link>http://raquelokyay.com/2010-election/125/this-story-is-not-dead/#comment-19392</link>
		<dc:creator>Alice L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reminds me of the time when, on the awful UE site, the three women took on two &quot;gentlemen&quot; whose names will not be mentioned.  It must have been difficult for them to not be able to run over me.  Hornak is into bullying and intimidation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me of the time when, on the awful UE site, the three women took on two &#8220;gentlemen&#8221; whose names will not be mentioned.  It must have been difficult for them to not be able to run over me.  Hornak is into bullying and intimidation.</p>
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		<title>By: Alice L.</title>
		<link>http://raquelokyay.com/2010-election/125/this-story-is-not-dead/#comment-19391</link>
		<dc:creator>Alice L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post, Paula - as usual.  Robert and his ilk just do not value life very much.  And apparently neither does the Hayworth family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post, Paula &#8211; as usual.  Robert and his ilk just do not value life very much.  And apparently neither does the Hayworth family.</p>
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		<title>By: Paula</title>
		<link>http://raquelokyay.com/2010-election/125/this-story-is-not-dead/#comment-19381</link>
		<dc:creator>Paula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see nothing wrong with pointing out a potential conflict of interest, even if it ultimately proves to be false.  For me, the issue ultimately comes down to which candidate best represents my values (purely theoretical in this case, since this isn&#039;t my district).  Even assuming every word Dr. Hayworth wrote is true, I would never vote for any candidate who supports unlimited abortion.  Period.  Even if her opponent supports unlimited abortion later in pregnancy, I would think there would be someone willing to represent the district who respects life at ALL stages. I don&#039;t expect to agree with any candidate on every issue, but for someone like me who view the willful destruction of a million innocent lives a year as unspeakably evil, this is not an issue I can overlook.  I have admitted elsewhere in Raquel&#039;s blog that I would vote for a tax-and-spend pro-lifer before I pulled the lever for a fiscal conservative who values convenience over life and has no problem with an annual body count of one million. I don&#039;t expect everyone to share my values, but certainly there is a faction within the Republican party that does. Just my 2 cents!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see nothing wrong with pointing out a potential conflict of interest, even if it ultimately proves to be false.  For me, the issue ultimately comes down to which candidate best represents my values (purely theoretical in this case, since this isn&#8217;t my district).  Even assuming every word Dr. Hayworth wrote is true, I would never vote for any candidate who supports unlimited abortion.  Period.  Even if her opponent supports unlimited abortion later in pregnancy, I would think there would be someone willing to represent the district who respects life at ALL stages. I don&#8217;t expect to agree with any candidate on every issue, but for someone like me who view the willful destruction of a million innocent lives a year as unspeakably evil, this is not an issue I can overlook.  I have admitted elsewhere in Raquel&#8217;s blog that I would vote for a tax-and-spend pro-lifer before I pulled the lever for a fiscal conservative who values convenience over life and has no problem with an annual body count of one million. I don&#8217;t expect everyone to share my values, but certainly there is a faction within the Republican party that does. Just my 2 cents!</p>
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		<title>By: Raquel</title>
		<link>http://raquelokyay.com/2010-election/125/this-story-is-not-dead/#comment-19364</link>
		<dc:creator>Raquel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t agree with you more Bob.  

New York State Republicans are dancing around faster than the energizer bunny.

Who are we to dare question their authority?

This is not the election year to be acting like Kings of a Monarch.  What they need to do is Shut Up and Listen for once.

I second your question Bob, and I call on the People to respond as well:

Is it an abortion clinic or not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t agree with you more Bob.  </p>
<p>New York State Republicans are dancing around faster than the energizer bunny.</p>
<p>Who are we to dare question their authority?</p>
<p>This is not the election year to be acting like Kings of a Monarch.  What they need to do is Shut Up and Listen for once.</p>
<p>I second your question Bob, and I call on the People to respond as well:</p>
<p>Is it an abortion clinic or not?</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Fois</title>
		<link>http://raquelokyay.com/2010-election/125/this-story-is-not-dead/#comment-19357</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Fois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 06:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The CEO of the Mount Kisco Medical Group, Dr. Scott Hayworth, has denied that the facility he manages is an abortion clinic.

Many other questions have been raised here that demand greater attention.  I&#039;m worried that Republicans have nationally lost sight of Reagan and his populist edge.  Sadly, the tea party movement is being maligned ruthlessly by the liberal news media and Democrats. Worse, it is being maligned by some Republicans too politically correct to trust their own shadows.

And that&#039;s why the 19th is so important.

That&#039;s also why the issue of directly responding to questions about abortion can be as important.

People in New York and throughout the United States want responsive candidates and public servants.  They want a comfort level with the message and the mission.  They want to believe that the &quot;To Do&quot; list with be finished by those they elect.

Nan Hayworth could be talking about the politics of leachate and be a rabid environmentalist and if she can&#039;t find the &quot;through line of action&quot; to communicate the endgame, people aren&#039;t drawn to her.

She stumbled this way over her membership in the NRA.  She was scripted, carefully, and she carefully spoke ... and there was no gravitatas.

Now we have an issue of abortion leaching into the conversation and Nan has not responded.  She&#039;s frozen, obviously, or been advised to shut up.  That&#039;s control freak politics at its best and worst.  It&#039;s something else too.

It&#039;s fear and self-loathing.

I am always amazed how many Republicans don&#039;t like being a Republican on the issues that matter to their neighbors and friends and family.  It&#039;s as if a split personality comes up, like a dual set of financials for a business, a &quot;bait and switch&quot; on the reality that substitutes a convenient perception.

It doesn&#039;t make it true.

PAC money bought contemporaries of Nan Hayworth something ...

Also, abortion may possibly be an integral part of her livelihood.  Now that might not be an issue but she makes it an issue by being unable to articulate an answer.

Her husband&#039;s letter was not an answer.  It was Clintonesque, probably written by his wife&#039;s political consultant and danced around the issue.

If there is one thing we know about the voters right now, they are sick of politicians dancing.

Is it an abortion clinic or not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The CEO of the Mount Kisco Medical Group, Dr. Scott Hayworth, has denied that the facility he manages is an abortion clinic.</p>
<p>Many other questions have been raised here that demand greater attention.  I&#8217;m worried that Republicans have nationally lost sight of Reagan and his populist edge.  Sadly, the tea party movement is being maligned ruthlessly by the liberal news media and Democrats. Worse, it is being maligned by some Republicans too politically correct to trust their own shadows.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s why the 19th is so important.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s also why the issue of directly responding to questions about abortion can be as important.</p>
<p>People in New York and throughout the United States want responsive candidates and public servants.  They want a comfort level with the message and the mission.  They want to believe that the &#8220;To Do&#8221; list with be finished by those they elect.</p>
<p>Nan Hayworth could be talking about the politics of leachate and be a rabid environmentalist and if she can&#8217;t find the &#8220;through line of action&#8221; to communicate the endgame, people aren&#8217;t drawn to her.</p>
<p>She stumbled this way over her membership in the NRA.  She was scripted, carefully, and she carefully spoke &#8230; and there was no gravitatas.</p>
<p>Now we have an issue of abortion leaching into the conversation and Nan has not responded.  She&#8217;s frozen, obviously, or been advised to shut up.  That&#8217;s control freak politics at its best and worst.  It&#8217;s something else too.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s fear and self-loathing.</p>
<p>I am always amazed how many Republicans don&#8217;t like being a Republican on the issues that matter to their neighbors and friends and family.  It&#8217;s as if a split personality comes up, like a dual set of financials for a business, a &#8220;bait and switch&#8221; on the reality that substitutes a convenient perception.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t make it true.</p>
<p>PAC money bought contemporaries of Nan Hayworth something &#8230;</p>
<p>Also, abortion may possibly be an integral part of her livelihood.  Now that might not be an issue but she makes it an issue by being unable to articulate an answer.</p>
<p>Her husband&#8217;s letter was not an answer.  It was Clintonesque, probably written by his wife&#8217;s political consultant and danced around the issue.</p>
<p>If there is one thing we know about the voters right now, they are sick of politicians dancing.</p>
<p>Is it an abortion clinic or not?</p>
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		<title>By: Alice L.</title>
		<link>http://raquelokyay.com/2010-election/125/this-story-is-not-dead/#comment-19318</link>
		<dc:creator>Alice L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 13:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert, your attacks on pro lifers (&quot;a radical fringe&quot;) show where you are coming from. You have never attempted a &quot;friendship&quot; because you continued your attacks.  What you don&#039;t like is when people respond to you.  This is called bullying.  And you show a lot of contempt for people and disrespect.  People have problems with Hayworth and her spouse.  Get used to it.  The person with the obsession is the one who keeps calling pro lifers &quot;radicals&quot; and a &quot;fringe group&quot;.  We happen to be the majority of the GOP and the majority of American citizens now.  You are in the minority.  It is very puzzling why you cling to your &quot;pro choice&quot; beliefs.  I keep saying that people who are so vehemently &quot;pro choice&quot; have personal reasons for it.  And that is sad!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert, your attacks on pro lifers (&#8220;a radical fringe&#8221;) show where you are coming from. You have never attempted a &#8220;friendship&#8221; because you continued your attacks.  What you don&#8217;t like is when people respond to you.  This is called bullying.  And you show a lot of contempt for people and disrespect.  People have problems with Hayworth and her spouse.  Get used to it.  The person with the obsession is the one who keeps calling pro lifers &#8220;radicals&#8221; and a &#8220;fringe group&#8221;.  We happen to be the majority of the GOP and the majority of American citizens now.  You are in the minority.  It is very puzzling why you cling to your &#8220;pro choice&#8221; beliefs.  I keep saying that people who are so vehemently &#8220;pro choice&#8221; have personal reasons for it.  And that is sad!</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Baker</title>
		<link>http://raquelokyay.com/2010-election/125/this-story-is-not-dead/#comment-19308</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 08:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert, I never stopped any debate. I have consistently and repeatedly described the specific antecedents necessary to examine the meaning of liberty, as well as some questions, values and arguments expressed by the founders, who were well grounded in the history of Western philosophy and examined questions related to the very meaning of liberty at great length in both the Federalist and Anti-Federalist papers and that document you trivialize as “a divorce decree.”  (I hope you don’t ever plan to run for political office. Even Democrats know the founding document of both America and conservatism is more than a divorce decree. Imagine if the press got hold of your trivialization?) 

The definition of liberty is not what some of today’s shallow adolescents might describe as “doin what ya wanna do.”  

I repeatedly invited you to encounter some very specific non-frivolous thought of America’s founders. I doubt that you read my remarks because you certainly avoided examining them. You did not respond to a single specific argument but merely indulged broad characterizations of the arguments.  

You repeatedly insist I am ignorant of history while avoiding my questions. (Incidentally, My 12 seven foot bookcases half filled with texts of American history alone would tend to disagree with you. So would my former students. So would my very specific arguments.)

Let’s see if we can pare it down to a very few simple questions. Are there such things as universal wrongs, and can a civilization legitimately protect itself from the consequences of universal wrongs?  (Example: Does a civilization have a right to stop an arsonist from pursuing what he might believe to be his art form?)  

Is there such a thing as natural law or a divinely endowed human condition? You say I failed to understand the life of Adams from having read 14 books about his life alone and that I must yield to your superior knowledge based on your having watched television. 

Tell us all precisely what you think he meant when he said: “Let it be known that liberty is not the grant of prince or parliament. Rights are inherent and essential, self-evident maxims, established as preliminaries even before parliament existed. Our rights are derived from our creator. They stand on the principle that even the lowest are by the unalterable and indefeasible laws of God and nature well entitled to the benefit of the air to breath, light to see, food to eat. This is liberty!”

Finally: Does a living breathing baby surviving an abortion, then thrown into a container to die a painful death, have any human rights?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert, I never stopped any debate. I have consistently and repeatedly described the specific antecedents necessary to examine the meaning of liberty, as well as some questions, values and arguments expressed by the founders, who were well grounded in the history of Western philosophy and examined questions related to the very meaning of liberty at great length in both the Federalist and Anti-Federalist papers and that document you trivialize as “a divorce decree.”  (I hope you don’t ever plan to run for political office. Even Democrats know the founding document of both America and conservatism is more than a divorce decree. Imagine if the press got hold of your trivialization?) </p>
<p>The definition of liberty is not what some of today’s shallow adolescents might describe as “doin what ya wanna do.”  </p>
<p>I repeatedly invited you to encounter some very specific non-frivolous thought of America’s founders. I doubt that you read my remarks because you certainly avoided examining them. You did not respond to a single specific argument but merely indulged broad characterizations of the arguments.  </p>
<p>You repeatedly insist I am ignorant of history while avoiding my questions. (Incidentally, My 12 seven foot bookcases half filled with texts of American history alone would tend to disagree with you. So would my former students. So would my very specific arguments.)</p>
<p>Let’s see if we can pare it down to a very few simple questions. Are there such things as universal wrongs, and can a civilization legitimately protect itself from the consequences of universal wrongs?  (Example: Does a civilization have a right to stop an arsonist from pursuing what he might believe to be his art form?)  </p>
<p>Is there such a thing as natural law or a divinely endowed human condition? You say I failed to understand the life of Adams from having read 14 books about his life alone and that I must yield to your superior knowledge based on your having watched television. </p>
<p>Tell us all precisely what you think he meant when he said: “Let it be known that liberty is not the grant of prince or parliament. Rights are inherent and essential, self-evident maxims, established as preliminaries even before parliament existed. Our rights are derived from our creator. They stand on the principle that even the lowest are by the unalterable and indefeasible laws of God and nature well entitled to the benefit of the air to breath, light to see, food to eat. This is liberty!”</p>
<p>Finally: Does a living breathing baby surviving an abortion, then thrown into a container to die a painful death, have any human rights?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Hornak</title>
		<link>http://raquelokyay.com/2010-election/125/this-story-is-not-dead/#comment-19295</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Hornak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed, you can&#039;t have it both ways. Either you are a supporter of liberty or not. Only a true liberal immediately resorts to threats of force to back up his positions.

Choose, do you want to have a civil debate or an insult match or a fight. I don&#039;t back down easily and am not frightened by how much you bench press. The bigger they are the harder they fall. Or maybe you win the fight, don&#039;t worry I&#039;ll get my good shots in. Either way, what have you proven? Other than you don&#039;t respect another persons freedom to express their beliefs. I know it&#039;s rather childish, but I will sink to your level if you prefer.

Or we can have a civilized debate. I will respect your right to your opinion if you respect mine. Choose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed, you can&#8217;t have it both ways. Either you are a supporter of liberty or not. Only a true liberal immediately resorts to threats of force to back up his positions.</p>
<p>Choose, do you want to have a civil debate or an insult match or a fight. I don&#8217;t back down easily and am not frightened by how much you bench press. The bigger they are the harder they fall. Or maybe you win the fight, don&#8217;t worry I&#8217;ll get my good shots in. Either way, what have you proven? Other than you don&#8217;t respect another persons freedom to express their beliefs. I know it&#8217;s rather childish, but I will sink to your level if you prefer.</p>
<p>Or we can have a civilized debate. I will respect your right to your opinion if you respect mine. Choose.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Hornak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Hornak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raquel, there is an old adage in politics, you have to have someone to beat someone. If you have a candidate you like better, I strongly support your right to get out there and help that candidate. That&#039;s what primaries are all about.

But it should be about promoting your choice (see, I am consistently pro-choice) and not about tearing the other candidate down (or the candidates husband). Using a scorched earth campaign against fellow republicans is what the democrats love to see.

Then who ever wins the primary should enjoy the unity of the republican party to push him or her over the top and win one for the team.

Alice, I have many, many friends who are social conservatives. It is not them, it is just you. You and only you. And its not hatred, once again, it is pity. I&#039;ve tried to make peace with you numerous times. You refuse and continue your obsession with me and my pro-choice beliefs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raquel, there is an old adage in politics, you have to have someone to beat someone. If you have a candidate you like better, I strongly support your right to get out there and help that candidate. That&#8217;s what primaries are all about.</p>
<p>But it should be about promoting your choice (see, I am consistently pro-choice) and not about tearing the other candidate down (or the candidates husband). Using a scorched earth campaign against fellow republicans is what the democrats love to see.</p>
<p>Then who ever wins the primary should enjoy the unity of the republican party to push him or her over the top and win one for the team.</p>
<p>Alice, I have many, many friends who are social conservatives. It is not them, it is just you. You and only you. And its not hatred, once again, it is pity. I&#8217;ve tried to make peace with you numerous times. You refuse and continue your obsession with me and my pro-choice beliefs.</p>
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